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Utah Call to Action [Updated this is now in the Senate]

Postby Artist Boy » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:47 pm

Even if you have done so before for this we need your help again. The Bill has completely pass in the house and is now in the Senate. This needs to be stopped.

Come on guys we did this before for HI.... lets band together again and help the people of Utah. We can do this.

Utah Call to Action
Thursday, February 23, 2012

HB 245 - AMENDMENT TO DEFINITION OF SMOKING IN UTAH
Link to HB245 (3rd Sub)

This bill would:
Ban the use of e-cigarettes in any public place where smoking is prohibited.
A bill has been introduced into the Utah State Legislature which would add the use of electronic cigarettes to the definition of smoking. It has passed the full House of Representatives and is now in the Utah Senate.

It has been assigned to the Senate Workforce Services and Community and Economic Development Standing Committee, and is on the agenda for Monday, Feb 27th at 8:00am. We strongly encourage local electronic cigarette users to attend and speak at the meeting. If you would like assistance with what to say, please contact us at board@casaa.org.
Please call or write the members of the Utah Senate Workforce Services and Community and Economic Development Standing Committee below.

What to say:
1. You oppose the inclusion of electronic cigarettes in HB 245 S3.

2. Tell your story on how switching to an e-cigarette or smokeless tobacco has changed your life.

3. Explain how electronic cigarette use is easy to distinguish from actual smoking. Although some e-cigarettes resemble real cigarettes, many do not. It is easy to tell when someone lights a cigarette, from the smell of smoke. E-cigarette vapor is practically odorless, and generally any detectable odor is not unpleasant and smells nothing like smoke.

4. Let them know that vapor does not behave in the same manner as smoke. There is no "side stream" vapor like the side stream smoke coming from the lit end of a cigarette. There is also no ash or litter. With so little evidence of use, enforcing indoor use bans on electronic cigarettes would be nearly impossible.

5. Inform them that the ability to use electronic cigarettes in public spaces will actually improve public health by inspiring other smokers to switch. Surveys of thousands of users indicate that the majority of those who switch, completely replace tobacco cigarettes with the electronic cigarettes, reducing their health risks by 98-99%.

6. Tell them that by switching to a smokeless product, you have greatly reduced your health risks.

7. Direct them to the CASAA.org website for more information.
Contact information:

Reid, Stuart C. (R) Chair
2155 GRANT AVE #125
OGDEN, UT 84401
Work: 801-337-4182
screid@le.utah.gov

Jones, Patricia W. (D)
Assistant Minority Whip
4571 SYCAMORE DR
SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84117
Home: 801-278-7667
Work: 801-322-5722
pjones@le.utah.gov

Morgan, Karen W. (D)
Minority Whip
8378 AUSTRIAN WAY
SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84121
Home: 801-943-0067
Work: 801-708-5122
Fax: 801-943-9614
kmorgan@le.utah.gov

Okerlund, Ralph (R)
248 S 500 W
MONROE, UT 84754
Home: 435-527-3370
Work: 435-527-3370
Cell: 435-979-7077
Fax: 435-527-3370
rokerlund@le.utah.gov

Osmond, Aaron (R)
11466 COUNTRY KNOLL ROAD
SOUTH JORDAN, UT 84095
Home: 801-253-6853
Work: 801-897-8127
Cell: 801-888-8742
Fax: 801-665-1454
aosmond@le.utah.gov

Stevenson, Jerry W. (R)
466 S 1700 W
LAYTON, UT 84041
Home: 801-544-5172
Work: 801-544-1211
Cell: 801-678-3147
Fax: 801-546-6819
jwstevenson@le.utah.gov

Waddoups, Michael G. (R) Senate President
2868 W MATTERHORN
TAYLORSVILLE, UT 84084
Home: 801-967-0225
Work: 801-355-1136
waddoups@le.utah.gov

Semi-colon separated email list:
screid@le.utah.gov; pjones@le.utah.gov; kmorgan@le.utah.gov; rokerlund@le.utah.gov; aosmond@le.utah.gov; jwstevenson@le.utah.gov; waddoups@le.utah.gov

Comma separated email list:
screid@le.utah.gov, pjones@le.utah.gov, kmorgan@le.utah.gov, rokerlund@le.utah.gov, aosmond@le.utah.gov, jwstevenson@le.utah.gov, waddoups@le.utah.gov
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Re: Utah Call to Action [Updated this is now in the Senate]

Postby Benson » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:02 am

I've got anarticle out today about the bill. Please feel free to use it if you write to your legislators.
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Re: Utah Call to Action [Updated this is now in the Senate]

Postby manysteps » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:22 pm

The bill failed yesterday (great news)

During the debates while it was in committee, and interesting question came up.

Is the nicotine in the juice derived from tobacco?

What's the answer to that one?
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Re: Utah Call to Action [Updated this is now in the Senate]

Postby Artist Boy » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:49 pm

99% of all nic used in ejuice is derived from tobacco. as for the other 1% idk but most likely tobacco too. they place just wont say.
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Re: Utah Call to Action [Updated this is now in the Senate]

Postby manysteps » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:58 pm

Having nicotine that isn't derived from tobacco would shut bills like that one down very fast... something for the industry to seriously consider.
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Re: Utah Call to Action [Updated this is now in the Senate]

Postby Artist Boy » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:08 pm

yea but it would drastically increase the cost, cause getting nic from other things like nightshades would take a lot more of them, to get close to the same amount of nic.
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Re: Utah Call to Action [Updated this is now in the Senate]

Postby manysteps » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:30 pm

I guess the ultimate question would have to be if the cost of getting it outside of tobacco would offset the potential tax ramifications?
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Re: Utah Call to Action [Updated this is now in the Senate]

Postby Artist Boy » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:03 pm

yea it is hard to say, since the alternative sources for this application has not really been looked into at this point as a alternative or replacement.
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Re: Utah Call to Action [Updated this is now in the Senate]

Postby manysteps » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:09 pm

Just food for thought. i'm glad our community came through on this though. It really had an effect on this bill being shoved aside. (it lost even though the sponsor removed the tax portion of it before bring it to the senate)
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Re: Utah Call to Action [Updated this is now in the Senate]

Postby Artist Boy » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:21 pm

yea it was another win for vapers but tha guy rite a few of these bills each year. either one day he will get one passed or (hopefully)just stop trying.

But the FDA is announcing their plans for regulations/taxation here in April, so we will see how things go. but just cause they are announcing their plans does not mean it will go into effect then they do tend to drag their feet about enforcing the rules.

So it may become a mad scramble when that hits but we as vapers can move fast and find ways around things well.

We are here and we are many strong. We will prevail at the end of the day.
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